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kostast

Name: Kwnstantinos
Reg.: 1/29/2020
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From: Greece
Age: 24
Car: 21214-20/2003

1/31/2020, 8:17 PM +03
Hello to all members from Greece!
My name is Konstantinos and I am 25 yars old.Recently after a car accident with our Lada Niva 1.6 1987 model me and my dad bought a used one Niva 21214-20 2003 model!Mine is 3rd and my father`s the 5th.
I am very excited to meet you and discuss about our Ladas.

Thank you for accepting me in your forum!



And this is our previous.


We kept everything from th 2121 for spare parts.
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kostast

Name: Kwnstantinos
Reg.: 1/29/2020
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From: Greece
Age: 24
Car: 21214-20/2003

3/19/2020, 9:27 PM +03
Also I have another problem!In the morning and generally when my niva is cold and it starts the chain make noise.I change the chain tensioner but nothing.Do you thing that it can be stuck the oil delivery pipe or the adapter and the oil goes to the tensioner with low pressure?
Savage

Reg.: 1/8/2005
Topics / Posts: 3 / 1192
From: Krasnodar
Age: 42
Car: ВАЗ-2131 Вошь 7.9.7, 2009 г.в.; ВАЗ-21214 2008 г.в., ВОШЬ 7.9.7.(фазир. впр.) Престиж 12V214. T-MAX

3/19/2020, 9:56 PM +03
wrong type of oil 1%
Bad quality of tensioner 99% (All spare parts that are sold on open market are non 100% comply to manufacturer specifications)

You need to install mechanical tensioner.

Вот все думаю, какую же подпись вставить?
kostast

Name: Kwnstantinos
Reg.: 1/29/2020
Topics / Posts: 1 / 26
From: Greece
Age: 24
Car: 21214-20/2003

3/19/2020, 10:33 PM +03
Savage
The oil I use is 10-40W synthetic!Correct me if I am wrong.To install a mechanical tensioner ( like 2121 has) I have to abrogate th oil pipe right?Because I am thinking to abrogate the adapter and put the old oil level instrument from my 2121 1.6.
Savage

Reg.: 1/8/2005
Topics / Posts: 3 / 1192
From: Krasnodar
Age: 42
Car: ВАЗ-2131 Вошь 7.9.7, 2009 г.в.; ВАЗ-21214 2008 г.в., ВОШЬ 7.9.7.(фазир. впр.) Престиж 12V214. T-MAX

3/20/2020, 12:59 PM +03
The specification of oil is correct. But due to some stupid reason hydraulic lifters and tensioners work different with oil of different manufacturers but same API specifications.

TO install mechanical tensioner you need to plug oil pipe or remove T-piece crossover with oil pipe and screw oil pressure sensor directly to engine.

Вот все думаю, какую же подпись вставить?
kostast

Name: Kwnstantinos
Reg.: 1/29/2020
Topics / Posts: 1 / 26
From: Greece
Age: 24
Car: 21214-20/2003

3/20/2020, 2:52 PM +03
Savage

Thank you a lot for th help!Has anyone ever tryied it to see results?Propably in the weekend I will do it.
The oil is Cyclon (I didn't mention it) next time I will put Castrol Magnatec I have heard it works great!
Savage

Reg.: 1/8/2005
Topics / Posts: 3 / 1192
From: Krasnodar
Age: 42
Car: ВАЗ-2131 Вошь 7.9.7, 2009 г.в.; ВАЗ-21214 2008 г.в., ВОШЬ 7.9.7.(фазир. впр.) Престиж 12V214. T-MAX

3/20/2020, 3:59 PM +03
Has anyone ever tryied it to see results?
Everybody who tried mechanical tensioner are happy with it's performance.
But don't confuse tensioner for LADA 2121 and 21214, they are different.
You need tensioners like this: Pilot or ISAI

I use Castrol Magnatec 10W-40 and Shell Helix HX7 10w-40 without any issue with tensioner and lifter

Вот все думаю, какую же подпись вставить?
kostast

Name: Kwnstantinos
Reg.: 1/29/2020
Topics / Posts: 1 / 26
From: Greece
Age: 24
Car: 21214-20/2003

3/20/2020, 5:56 PM +03
Savage
I see.I will make a research to our market and as soon as I installed it I will send you back!
4/6/2020, 2:14 PM +03
Hello to all members.
Staying home it has and benefits, more time for our niva.So, I am thinking of changing the place of the fuel filter.
As you can see in the image I will make two new high pressure fuel hoses (green colour), move the filter near engine (blue colour) and abrogate the fuel pipes (yellow colour).




What do you think?Do you know how I can find the inside diameter of the hoses?
nibor

Reg.: 10/10/2012
Topics / Posts: 28 / 3604
From: Москва
Age: 56
Car: 213100М 2011г Е-газ

4/6/2020, 3:07 PM +03
I am thinking of changing the place of the fuel filter.
This action is highly undesirable for fire safety reasons, since the fuel filter will be located closer to the heated engine parts.It will also increase the likelihood of steam jams in the fuel line due to fuel boiling.[:nono]

"У нас кладут асфальт местами и немного
Чтоб всякий оккупант на подступах застрял" (С.Трофимов)
kostast

Name: Kwnstantinos
Reg.: 1/29/2020
Topics / Posts: 1 / 26
From: Greece
Age: 24
Car: 21214-20/2003

4/6/2020, 3:21 PM +03


Another option is to bring the filter back and make only one fuel hose and if there is a liquid the fuel will drop on the front diff.
fuel filter will be located closer to the heated engine parts
I agree but and without this the fuel hose passes in front of the cylinder head all ready.
And off course I will make a protective piece with fire proof tape (like the exhaust pipes).If nothing works or is dangerous off course I won`t procced at this modification.
Savage

Reg.: 1/8/2005
Topics / Posts: 3 / 1192
From: Krasnodar
Age: 42
Car: ВАЗ-2131 Вошь 7.9.7, 2009 г.в.; ВАЗ-21214 2008 г.в., ВОШЬ 7.9.7.(фазир. впр.) Престиж 12V214. T-MAX

4/6/2020, 4:31 PM +03
What is the main reason for such labor-consuming modification? Boredom? [:D]

Вот все думаю, какую же подпись вставить?
kostast

Name: Kwnstantinos
Reg.: 1/29/2020
Topics / Posts: 1 / 26
From: Greece
Age: 24
Car: 21214-20/2003

4/6/2020, 5:02 PM +03
Savage

[:D][:D]
It` s just a thought as the fuel hoses consume a lot space and more easy to make some other jobs.
apl81apl

Name: Алексей
Reg.: 4/12/2018
Topics / Posts: 1 / 63
From: Подольск МО
Age: 39
Car: Нива 21214 стандарт 2010г.в.

4/6/2020, 5:20 PM +03
I see.I will make a research to our market and as soon as I installed it I will send you back!
Hello all

i have installed ISAI tensioner today )) if you have all spare parts and materials (WD40) it takes approximately 3 hours
Also if you change tensioner, you can change also termostat and cooling tubes. It will be much easier.
You need remove oil pipe (red line on the picture) from oil pressure sensor (big red dot on the picture) till oil tensioner (automatic tensioner need no oil)
P.S. DO NOT REMOVE cap-nut from ISAI before installation on the engine[:)]
tens1.jpg
tens1.jpg
kostast

Name: Kwnstantinos
Reg.: 1/29/2020
Topics / Posts: 1 / 26
From: Greece
Age: 24
Car: 21214-20/2003

4/6/2020, 5:26 PM +03
apl81apl

Thank you very much for the explanation.I have only one `problem` here in Greece no one import spare parts for lada, so I order them from other countries and unfortunately the shipping cost is a problem.So, the only tensioner it is easy for me is the pilot.It worth it or may I have a problem?

I have thermostat and all the rapiator pipes (I will change them all) [:D][:D]
apl81apl

Name: Алексей
Reg.: 4/12/2018
Topics / Posts: 1 / 63
From: Подольск МО
Age: 39
Car: Нива 21214 стандарт 2010г.в.

4/6/2020, 5:45 PM +03
kostast

yes, i think there are some problems with lada-parts in Greece [:)]
BUT i live in Moscow region, but now all spare parts shops are closed because of COVID19 [:X]

i have no expiience with Pilot tensioner but comments about it are not bad
concerning delivery of ISAI you can ask direct by e-mail, adress: isai-vol@mail.ru
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